Gta Vice City Game Archives

Gta Vice City Game Archives

Gta Vice City Game Archives

Gta Vice City Game Archives

Firstly, big thanks to the SDA staff and everyone who gave their support! Each run has been more rewarding than the last and I hope it continues.

The bibliography isn't very big, working from first principles is far more fun. Still I can't not mention the site adityagaur.com for Christian Jahnsen's extremely helpful maps. They got a hell of a lotta use

I've always enjoyed Vice City more than GTAIII, nice sunny vibe etcetera, so I attacked the daunting % task with great enthusiasm and completed it only a little over a month after I did its predecessor. It has almost twice as many rampages and unique jumps and more extra challenges, so since I'm the sort of person who gains more enjoyment out of planning than actually attempting a run I was really pushed to my limits here, but I'm sure that my obsessive optimisations of both of these will be very apparent.

I tried to improve on my GTA running in every way, and with hindsight my previous run could be considered a warm-up to this. Being comfortable with the controls from the very beginning made a nice change (with the addition of bikes and the unwanted ability to jump out of moving cars leading to many hilarious situations). The game has more stuff to do in a more compact area than no. III (mainly due to assets), so doing everything without jumping around too much was the main goal. Obviously not everything can be accounted for right from the start (and a practice run wouldn't help too much with the bulk of it) so the best I could do was chip away at it in a state of heightened common sense and make a million contingency plans for the countless times things didn't go my way. In the end it fit together more than I could have hoped for.

There's a lot of side-missiony stuff that can't be done during your run-of-the-mill missions, mostly rampages and rc races, and most unique jumps that require a speedier vehicle. So while I tried to do as much as I could when I was passing through anyway, there were occasions for systematically traversing the city and mopping up all the little things. I tried not to overdo this freedom; it would be tempting just to go out and do everything right at the start/end and not have to worry about tasks overlapping and such. Instead I planned it around instances when I'm left stranded in areas devoid of much else to do, preferably with a nice bike, and worked my way over to the next mission as efficiently as possible. This is harder to put into words than I thought it'd be, can I just say it's all rather complicated and leave it there? Good. Onto the segment comments!

Once again, percentages and stuff done in each segment is noted cumulatively so everything is accounted for and you can see how it comes together over time (if you want to). I wasn't sure how to categorise some stuff, almost everything appears to be piled into one value on the stats screen, so I've differentiated between certain things.

M=Missions A=Assassination Contracts CC=Chopper Checkpoints SR=Street Races SA=Sunshine Autos Vehicles RC=Remote Control Races P=Packages R=Rampages UJ=Unique Jumps SH=Store Hold-ups Pr=Properties (not asset properties)

  • 01 - 5%
    M - 2/52; P - 5/; R - 5/35; UJ - 5/36; Cone Crazy; Pr - 1/7

    The armour next to the package is very useful, but just that little jog can cause your car to disappear. Ouch At the hotel I get out rather than parking on the marker for a couple of reasons; the car doesn't disappear and it's faster than the nearby Oceanic (and it has it's door open and is facing the right way), and by running a certain way past the marker and through the hotel it skips two cinematics.

    Chainsaw rampage is easy (speed is all down to chance though). Katana rampage 'looks' easy, but I got extremely lucky by having a policeman to stab. For some reason a wanted level stops me from getting shot to shreds at close range as happens all other times. Still the method for stabbing without wasting loads of time with pointless animations is tricky to do, but I got a lot of practice

    A few 'bike only' jumps then (I could barely make the first jump with a fast car and I've never made the third one). 'Cone Crazy' is fairly inconsequential. I'm so fortunate that police don't seem to interfere with the molotov rampage, sheesh. Everything else is obvious, except when changing clothes I park a little bit away so the car doesn't disappear. Ooo, almost crashed on the way to the docks too, I'm usually glued to the floor over that bump

     

  • 02 - 7%
    M - 3/52; UJ - 6/36; P - 7/; R - 6/35; Paramedic

    Since the unique jump was planned into this I had to restart until I found a fast car while on the moped. It's a good habit anyway. I got lucky this time (and there's still the paramedic nightmare coming up) so I let the slip-up outside ammunation slide. You can see how I always try to have something to do while the phone conversations are on.

    I debated with myself for a while about when to do the Paramedic mission since nothing really forces you to go to the hospital for a while, so I just decided to do it as soon as reasonably possible for the infinite sprint reward. I won't say anything about the mission itself.

     

  • 03 - 10%
    M - 5/52; P - 13/; SH - 2/15; R - 9/35; PCJ Playground

    It took me quite a while to realise 'Jury Fury' could be done without injuring the juror just by shooting the car, and it gives me enough time to get back behind the wheel for a free spin.

    Cut to the robberies: having two stars is never much of a problem at any point so I treat robberies like any other collectable for the most part. However the police can get in the way so it's faster to just run round those buildings to the packages/rampages.

    PCJ Playground! I recall it being much much harder, but there isn't that much to it really. Only one almost unavoidable crash which is brilliant, I avoided all the other unavoidable crashes. Then back to the roof of the mall for a rampage, since it's impossible to do it when I was last up there for the jumps. The jump off the roof was awesome Other than that coulda used the phonecall to get the package by the savepoint instead of getting squashed by stationary bikes, but I'd already gotten it because even I make mistakes with my planning!

     

  • 04 - 13%
    A - 1/5; M - 8/52; R - 12/35; P - 18/; Firefighter

    I restarted until the car I grab was a sports car, just like a good speedy person. The pizza boy is killed pretty much as close to Cortez as he can get which was very nice. Another planning oversight is when I arrive at the apartment, chainsaw in hand, and completely miss the package! It costs about 10 seconds much later on, meh

    The drive-by rampage is done while I still have a car, hooray for having one left to go and suddenly getting mauled by cop cars. And hooray for pointlessly jumping out of moving cars, the ease with which you can do it accidentally is my biggest gripe about the game.

    The 'Four Iron' thing is a bit obvious but a nice trick all the same. 'Demolition Man' is hard, but it went well so enjoy it! And firefighter is cake, though I think I got lost once it's hard to tell

     

  • 05 - 20%
    M - 14/52; UJ - 8/36; P - 26/; RC - 1/3; SH - 4/15; Pizza Boy

    I'm the master at shooting out the tire on the bike I try to ride after 'Mall Shootout', feel the power! 'Guardian Angels' can't really go faster, and the bike chase was incredibly good. Screwed up one of the unique jumps but it just means I take a different and very slightly slower route. The wall after the package hates me ='(

    The prerogative on getting the Cheetah during 'The Chase' really pays off, and the closer you drive to the baddies (respectively) the faster they go, so the walls around the north-point mall can be used for cover.

    Now's as good as any time to do some rc racing, it's easy to screw up due to lack of attention/boredom and the following robberies entail slightly more risk I really don't care for the pizza boy stuff, went well though (push them pizzas!). Then the three missions were tagged on the end because the only hard part is getting the package in the hole during 'Pling Plong '89'.

    I start running through the status screen at the end from this segment on after it was suggested that it might help avoid missing something or having a repeat of my GTAIII 95% incident.

     

  • 06 - 23%
    M - 16/52; P - 36/; R - 17/35; SH - 7/15; Pr - 2/7

    'Sir, Yes Sir!' is a good means of getting stuck into the Western island, it's surprisingly easy too. Egh, stupid shotgun. Hehe, he runs funny. From now on I only need to venture to the east to tie off loose ends which are mainly missions. For 'Two Bit Hit' I shoot the target from a distance to stop him driving away, then just throw myself into the middle of the bloodthirsty Haitians anyway. The Cheetah blows up if you try to get back in it, but the cornering on the Hearst is great, and it lasts just long enough.

    For the drive-by rampage having a decent bike is useful, but I was very lucky not to get busted at one point. Waiting through phone-calls is no fun though, could've skipped it but it was a reflex!

     

  • 07 - 27%
    P - 43/; M - 21/52; SH - 8/15

    Choppers! I use them whenever possible for obvious reasons, but they only speed up the collection of the more out of the way packages. Landing on the buildings is really hard (the second one is for the package I missed in segment 4), and so I wasn't too put off by Tommy's amusing trip/bath.

    Lance just loves to die from the merest stray bullet during 'Death Row', but I only kill the absolutely necessary enemies. The hardest part of the segment is a toss up between landing the helicopter in the streets and doing 'Stunt Boat Challenge' with 2 stars; but the boating went extremely well and the police hardly bothered me. Oh, docking at the !!! jetty has its share of problems.

    'Juju Scramble' is almost entirely on foot, and it's by far the fastest way to do it unless you're really lucky with the cops. Still got run over, no biggie. On the other hand, 'Bombs Away' brought me close to tears before I worked out how to fly the blasted plane (thankfully frustration is rewarded with an explosion for this mission), but that's the quickest I've ever done it. The van won't move afterwards though so I grab my Voodoo once more.

    For 'Rub Out, Lance catches up when you enter the mansion so I kill a few guys to stop my partner getting his ass too shot up, while I get a package since I'm in the vicinity. Diaz died before he entered his office, hells yeah!

     

  • 08 - 31%
    M - 23/52; P - 52/; SH - 12/15; R - 21/35; RC - 2/3; Pr - 3/7

    The car is faster than the helicopter here because it's more accessible and quicker to enter/exit, and I don't have far to go in an almost straight line. I'm happy with my 'Shakedown' route; note that there are certain windows I can't shoot before I've held-up the clerk or else he'll be cowering in fear and it won't work (did that rhyme? meh).

    Rocket rampage was EXCELLENT, plenty of gang members in multiple tightly knit groups pretty much all on the top floor. Not much to say about the rc race, it doesn't feel right if there isn't at least one incredibly flukey recovery in there. The rest of this northerly area can be done with little trouble as long as you hide behind a wall and laugh at the stupid a.i., desperately praying that enough gang members spawn amidst the police. The colt is so much better on the console versions

    I received a reasonable amount of 'negative feedback' (admittedly from one person) for buying a property then not saving, but there's a fast four-seater vehicle RIGHT THERE! and the following mission isn't hard. I swear I saved time by not saving then, and forgive me if I don't think the site should be called 'Seemingly-sensible Demos Archive' (sorry). 'Recruitment Drive' itself went very well, I've never managed to destroy the car at the first opportunity though, your own car gets in the way and if you park it elsewhere it disappears and even then there just isn't quite enough time.

     

  • 09 - 36%
    M - 28/52; P - 54/; SA - 2/24; R - 22/35

    A little run discrepancy here, but I hear it's hardly noticeable. I accidentally saved over my slot (walked over the save point during the fade-in and my fingers did the rest), and I was not in the mood for re-doing the last segment when it had gone so well. So I saved another 3 times to put the timer roughly where it was before. The only changes (besides the 10 or so seconds lost) are:

    1) phonecall starts immediately after loading. This doesn't affect my time since if I hadn't messed up I could've run to the mission marker before the ringing started and taken the call elsewhere.

    2) the Hyman Arena is in a different order (since the challenges change every 24 hours), which actually puts me at a disadvantage later on. So basically, I gained absolutely nothing from this and lost some time overall, it isn't any form of cheating.

    After recording this attempt I tried again many times because it's a bit rough in places, but I couldn't get close to this one so it'll have to do. 'Dildo Dodo' never got boring at the start of the segment, the Skimmer is great! And I actually managed to fail 'Dirty Lickin's' a few times, how depressing (then there was that time I shot all the Haitians by mistake, oh dear). After getting the V.I.P. in 'V.I.P.' I could have gotten a faster car but I doubt the time it takes to switch vehicles would be worth it.

    I found a Sunshine Autos' car before I'd even set off from the airport which is very nice. The following rampage has to be done in a certain way to stop the car going away (which I need for the next mission, decent 4-seaters tend to be rarer around the cafe). I then park it where I do to stop it disappearing while I initiate the mission. My shooting isn't that great in 'Cannon Fodder', but passable. I thin the crowd around the van because I had about a 90% chance of being thrown out of it if I didn't. Even then if too many tires are popped there's not a hope in hell of driving back to the cafe in one piece.

    Another showroom car, yay blind luck! The latter stage of 'Naval Engagement' is one problem with the segment; I got to the cafe with 4 stars in a Landstalker for the love of exasperation, and then it goes and disappears! (I need it for the showroom by the way). 'Trojan Voodoo' had some wholly unnecessary shooting, another significant infraction in my book all in all, not my best work.

     

  • 10 - 37%
    Dirt Ring; M - 29/52; P - 55/

    The segment starts at the Hyman Condo since the time is just right for the arena (set in-game times and speedruns do not mix! But I think I did alright organising my arena visits). Now this bit is H A R D - and I spent more time on this than anything else. Simply put, I think this is the best 'Dirt Ring' anyone has ever done; no bails, and only screwed up two obstacles once each. Still at some points I panicked and forgot what to do, I'd love to do a sub-3 minute but I'm more than happy with my , considering my initial attempts were around the 15 minute mark.

    Obviously after that I don't want to put myself in too much risk, but 'Martha's Mug Shot' is extremely easy with a little graphical exploitation. Candy moves at a fixed pace so I don't lose time getting a package, and I can't go and do anything else when following the limo because flying too far away fails the mission.

     

  • 11 - 46%
    M - 33/52; P - 60/; UJ - 12/36; CC - 2/4; R - 23/35; SH - 13/15; SA - 3/24; Pr - 4/7

    The bike makes getting the package and jump much easier so I left them till now. 'G-spotlight', here we go! It simply isn't a speedrun unless it's done with no crashes, and there are lots of little nuances with lots of the jumps to prevent falling off (and all the while the bike takes damage, joy). It required a lot of practice so enjoy this great mission!

    Doing that unlocks the Sparrow for the 'chopper checkpoint' so I may as well get it over with. Some tricky navigation but I basically learnt where every pole / lamppost / invisible bit of building were so it was virtually flawless. I run to the rampage because I found that flying straight there somehow made the phonecall start earlier, so I would've been left standing around otherwise. Then I lucked out with a reasonably fast car, which helps a lot with 'Love Juice'. The imba seal actually crashed the bike himself, hehehe. The long drive on 2 wheels with 2 stars is really not easy, I'm astounded that I didn't crash.

    Didn't mean to shoot the car at the end of 'Psycho Killer', but it isn't too bad (I didn't die), especially since I found one of the harder to find cars for the showroom on my way south. And why am I going south you ask? I don't have the firepower to do (Mitch's) biker gang's second mission, so instead I decided to start the Malibu missions as I'll be forced back to the north-west during 'The Shootist'. And the most efficient way there? Boatyard! Namely 'Checkpoint Charley', which many consider to be one of the hardest missions in the game. It takes a complete idiot to do it in the latter stages of a pretty hard segment, to which I have no excuse, but it isn't that hard if you take it slowly over those jumps (but not too slowly).

    The second chopper charley checkpoint challenge is much easier than the other one, nuff said. I don't do anything else yet because otherwise I wouldn't have enough money to buy The Malibu Club in the next segment (a % run with money issues, jesus)

     

  • 12 - 55%
    A - 2/5; P - 64/; M - 36/52; UJ - 20/36; Shooter; R - 24/35

    Wow! I've never found a decent car that quickly before. It really helped with 'Waste The Wife' (by the way, she ONLY takes damage by you ramming her (and guns aren't allowed)). My poor Sabre had just enough juice to make that jump, usually I'd have to find another car before doing that so I'm really happy with how much things worked in my favour here.

    'No Escape?'; it's more than possible to do it without getting the cop uniform, but I always had health issues later on if I let myself get shot, and I found it lessens the number of police outside which means I probably won't get busted (as opposed to almost definitely ending up busted). Cam Jones has a horrible habit of getting stuck on the way out so I need to slow down a bit to manoeuvre him around the building.

    After that I drop by the Vercetti estate, now with a minigun waiting for me from having 60 packages, which is what I need for the biker mission I mentioned. 'Bar Brawl' is simple, but I can't help complicating it with a fairly dodgy unique jump, hilarious stuff. Getting the two bike riders can be tricky but they both landed infront of my wheels so it's no problem. Don't know what the weather thinks it's doing though, does Tommy ever get the feeling that the entire world revolves around him?

    Some of the following unique jumps have some frustrating issues with registering it; the third one for example, if you're lucky enough to hit the stairs without crashing into a car stopped at the lights or the stairs themselves, you need to aim slightly left so as not to hit a tree and screw it all up. They're just a speedrunning nightmare (he should so have been decapitated on one of them too).

    My bike lasted all the way to the shooting range though (I fully expected it to explode after the construction site) so I'm not complaining about that! 'The Shootist' is incredibly easy with a little tactic (the furthest target is worth more points so I go for that obviously). Playing with a mouse helps a bit too. The rounds end when your bullets run out so I fire constantly. I have to re-do it for the fast reload ability, and I get exactly the right score.

    It all goes a bit choppy towards the end, but it's only during the phonecall thankfully. After saving my computer crashed so no stats screen for you!

     

  • 13 - 66%
    UJ - 33/36; CC - 3/4; P - 76/; R - 28/35; SH - 15/15; RC - 3/3

    I can't do the arena at this time, so now's a perfect opportunity to blitz through the entire island and get all those pesky unique jumps (and packages and rampages besides). I got quite sick of 'Japanese Boy' I must say. But the chopper checkpoint doesn't fit in anywhere else so I do it now, it's only 2 seconds off my best ever time.

    The unique jump just after that it's just godly. I'd say I managed to stay on my bike after it roughly 2% of the time, and then half the time I couldn't find my bike afterwards or it'd get stuck on a roof while I got thrown to the ground. But it worked for my successful attempt, yayness! After the decent rampage and jump I land next to a pay 'n' spray. I don't use it 'just in case'; it's entirely necessary as you'll see at the end of the segment.

    The last two store hold-ups can be done at almost any time, but a bike is easier to get on and off so I do it now. I can't afford the wanted levels though so I shoot them (only works if it's a one-hit kill).

    Isn't much to say until the roof of the airport, the bike almost falls off! Which would've sucked I go where I do for the rocket rampage to get a constant stream of vehicles at the crossroads, which I've found is the only way to do it without jumping off the roof (which cannot happen, not only because the Haitians will horribly rape me if I do). I'm quite conservative firing off the ledge, I'm sure you can imagine attempts which failed because I blew me and my bike off the roof and onto the road (hehe, once the bike landed on a Haitian).

    I'd originally planned to pick-up the package on the plane when I'm here later with a 'copter, but you can't land them on planes!! You can't drive bikes on planes either consistently which leads to my interesting strategy (yes, I've run off with my bike a few times, he really needs to learn how to climb ladders, though it would spoil half the fun). All the jumps went well, the last one is just too cool.

    There's something about that rc helicopter, it's just a bitch to control, I tried not to be overly careful though. The rest is just, yeah.

     

  • 14 - 70%
    SA - 4/24

    The first of several sheer luck manipulation segments, they were agony to make but if it's faster it needs to be put up with. Cars seem to be loaded into the game from the start and only change when re-loaded or by leaving and returning to the area (which wasn't an option), so getting several ones that I need in the same loading and within a reasonably short space of time of each other just takes patience patience patience you get the picture.

    Only put one car in the garage but got most of the sports cars and an Admiral. There's a lengthy period of running around but it really pays off, I didn't come close to this level of luck in any other attempts.

     

  • 15 - 70%
    SA - 5/24

    In all of these I only allow myself one run up and down the road before I restart. Obviously they get shorter as they go along since I run out of cars to collect and it requires more luck to find one I need. Landstalkers they're so stupidly rare! But I found two needed cars in the same place which is lovely. Though it wouldn't have been nice if the Washington had turned out to be a Sentinel or Admiral, I can hardly tell the difference, especially from the front.

     

  • 16 - 70%
    SA - 8/24

    Hehe, Landstalker right from the off, that's the game mocking me that is. Get in the freaking comet! thank you

     

  • 17 - 70%
    SA - 18/24; SR - 2/6; M - 37/52; P - 78/

    If there's no other indication that I'm insane, let this be it. I needed a Sabre and a Virgo, and it took about 50 attempts before I'd ever see either. On top of that I decided to do a full-fledged 20 minuteish segment because I was fed up with the mini-segments, so I simply threw away most of the rare cars by screwing up later on. Turned out okay in the end though!! The crazy people always come out on top!!!

    Anyway, I've got a few more errands to run in the eastern island, and just enough street races to give me an excuse to go there. They aren't particularly hard and the Sabre Turbo is quite nice while I wait for my Hotring Racer. The first one didn't go too well though (remember the Virgo, remember the Virgo).

    'Cop Land' can be quite messy; firstly I shoot Lance because it knocks him over so he won't follow me inside and get stuck. Luring the two cops into the garage would've been very quick if they hadn't blocked the door. It's quite painful, and eventually I gave in and drove it out myself, avoiding being busted by a hair's breadth. Then they got a bit too close to the heli while I was escaping, so I tried to recover as fast as I could, not much I could do to help that.

    Phone was a bit niggly when retrieving the Limo, but then I go out for a race and find the last showroom car! Awesomeness. Shoving all those cars into the garage one after another is quite satisfying. The second race went fine, but then I go and mess it up right at the end by parking too close to the club entrance and end up answering the phone. But the big-time luck parts are over with now, the rest don't allow for such mistakes.

     

  • 18 - 80%
    M - 40/52; Distribution; SA - 21/24; SR - 4/6; P - 79/; A - 3/5; CC - 4/4; Stripper; Pr - 6/7; UJ - 35/36

    'The Driver', the biggest indication that speedrunning has made me much better at GTA games. I'm sure everyone who's played Vice City has had plenty of trouble with this, and I'm no exception, but when I actually came to speedrunning it (which I'd been dreading to be honest) it was remarkably easier than I'd expected. No special strategies such as ramming the back so he spins, just plain old driving quickly. Just missed 2 minutes though, ah well.

    'The Job' is much more fun however! I need to be extra fast or I'll have to sit in the car while Phil yaps on about something. You can run past the guards in the bank but I spend a reasonable amount of time in each place so it isn't too practical. Got spun around by the crazy camera at one point, but I think I offset it slightly by not needing to pick up the health. When the SWAT storm the place they are invulnerable until they're on the ground, and trying to shoot any more than the closest two is a waste of time and health. Apart from that I cross over the road when driving past the bank after being sprayed since the SWAT guys still shoot at me, and a popped tire isn't too nice.

    I'm sure there's a more interesting word than 'Distribution' that could've been used for selling drugs, whatever. I drive around the docks because there seem to be far fewer police around there than anywhere else, and I avoided two stars unless I was right next to a pay 'n' spray and thought it'd be faster. For the most part my judgements on when the stars would disappear were good, so it was quick.

    Street race? What street race? Eh, stupid Baggage Handler Yay, 99 Red Balloons. Oh dear, I'm making even less sense than usual.

    'Autocide'! was good! Apart from my car disappearing and crashing my bike in a completely random way, but I doubt either of those are avoidable. The final target was wonderfully quickly disposed of. Cortez's final mission puts me all the way over in the north so I finish off everything left to do in this area of the city. That basically includes a chopper checkpoint (the easiest), a few jumps, a property, and the godforsaken strip club online resources had some conflicting views, luckily I did some tests or I might have sat there for twice as long. Just skip ahead exactly five minutes please, if you watch any part of it then your role in humanity is officially forfeit.

    That second jump was quite close. 'All Hands On Deck' is rendered irrelevant with a minigun in hand. Thumb twiddlingly good. Then I can really go for my last visit to this island, the Caddies were not in season it seems. At least I threw in a bizarre crashlette to compensate.

     

  • 19 - 86%
    P - 82/; R - 30/35; A - 4/5; M - 43/52; UJ - 36/36; Pr - 7/7; Test Track; Trial By Dirt

    While assassinerating, I can't fire until they've spoken. I did a damn good job of driving without all my tires too. As for the missions; race went well. 'Messing With The Man' is just a case of waiting for a heli to come and shooting it till it's done. More tirelessness! Any slow down and I won't make the final unique jump so the segment hangs on that mission.

    I get the final property but once again don't save, since I have a bike waiting for me. 'Test Track' was great apart from a rather prolonged tippage, as was the Sanchez equivalent. Then my favourite rampage to finish off.

     

  • 20 - 87%
    P - 83/; R - 31/35; Hotring; M - 44/52

    Some time manipulation is necessary here for the arena, but I should mention that for some reason I sometimes lose control of the mouse after loading. Add that to the fact I have to load multiple times much frustration. I got to the doors just before they opened which is very rare and a great indication of speed.

    The 'Hotring' requires far more luck than it would appear to have, just hoping that as many of the near-crashes as possible don't become actual crashes. Some dramatic moments are ensured, fun to watch as it unfolds even if you're the one playing it

    I had a route all planned out for 'Publicity Tour', then some sodding Taxi pulls up in the middle of my junction and I'm forced into a detour. So it was made up on the fly from there on. As long as I don't lose time getting to the end spot I'm happy! Grabbing the bike at the end was a remarkable stroke of luck, about time!

     

  • 21 - 92%
    Bloodring; P - 97/; M - 46/52; SA - 24/24; SR - 6/6; A - 5/5; R - 33/35

    Some more saving at the start. Then 'Bloodring', which wasn't received too well, but I'd initially let myself continue with the attempt if I made it in 5 markers (about a 10% chance), but here the 6th is immediately after the 5th so I thought it was good enough to continue with. It's impossible to be in complete control during it so I'm sorry if it looks a bit messy.

    Stopping for the following package is tricky, I had to basically learn to skid by feel to stop myself careering off the side. For 'Gun Runner', firstly my bike always disappears unfortunately. I take out the first two before they have a chance to respond, then I'm infront of the other two so I can take them out at a safe distance. The 'back-up' aren't much of a threat unless you give them time to get off their bikes, in which case they'll shoot the crap outta you. I take a moped (Faggio) because it's quicker to get on/off and I don't have far to go, plus the Patriot is facing the wrong way and it has a fairly wide turning circle.

    'Boomshine Saignon' has the interesting gimmick of delaying all of your button presses by a couple of seconds, so it isn't too hard to compensate for it. If my driving through the rest of the segment isn't that good it's because this mission really messes with my head; takes me ages to snap out of it. The longest race is still to go so while I'm in the area I finish off the Sunshine Autos' vehicles. The Voodoos cause some trouble, it takes some time for the game to catch up with the area you're in and start spawning Voodoos rather than Cuban Hermeses. Lamppost blegh.

    The Vice City Endurance race went well, there are a few moments where slowing down is necessary to stop from bouncing all over the road. As long as it's a sub-4 minute I'm happy. 'Loose Ends' is fun!

    After my package spree I grab the Sea Sparrow because I just can't do the rocket rampage from that little wooden structure consistently. It's still a struggle with the mounted-minigun but far easier. However, it disappearing when I went to get the package/rampage was not in the plan. It doesn't take much longer to do it all on foot but walking around those Haitians practically defenceless is scary.

     

  • 22 - 98%
    R - 35/35; M - 50/52; P /; Vigilante;

    The ice-cream van disappears when it's reloaded, typical. First is, of course, the second machete rampage! I got lots of them walking away from me so it was extremely fast. I dread to think what would've happened if I'd had to cut up the hostile Haitians

    At the start of 'Spilling The Beans' I can usually grab the Cabbie that just dropped me off, not this time though. The heli portion of the mission went brilliantly though; I'm so glad I found a good place to land it without anything getting in the way of the propellers. The alternative I had planned was to bail out onto the North side of the boat and hope that it landed on the ground and the right way up. This way I didn't even lose any armour!

    I then save just for the health restoration, I'm not about to throw away my Sea Sparrow. I only have time to get the one package on my way there. I land the heli just up the road from the compound entrance; I had a few practice attempts where it got destroyed and I realised it was because I was standing in front of it while I was getting shot at. Sometimes I get shredded trying to get in, but this went well until I was just about to leave (see how fast my health goes down). Oh, and I can't go any closer to the courier's Maverick before she gets off or they'll fly away.

    I could've gotten package when I was flying around here in segment 21, but I thought I could've gotten it during 'Cabmaggedon' until it turned out to be faster to do 'Vigilante' before that (and I needed all the packages in order to get the Hunter in order to do Vigilante). Seriously, I changed my plans for the last part of the game about 10 times before I settled on this. Either way I essentially have to fly over the package twice so I don't lose much time if any, just thought I should mention it!

    I don't have much choice other than waiting for the phonecall. 'Cap The Collector' goes very well though with two bikes bursting into flame before they reach Sunshine Autos, a delightful rarity. The second one in particular, just wow. Why oh why did the Hunter have to be put in a military base?? I got the damn packages! At least the phonecall gives me time to get in position, it's a fine line between getting away safely and being blown to smithereenos along with MY Hunter. 'Vigilante' went well, some brilliant crashes, that thing can be chucked at anything and it just does a bouncy-ball impression. There's apparently a glitch to do with sticking around the airport (so the criminals are out in the open and drive into the water half the time), but it's never worked for me. I really couldn't have finished it in a less advantageous place though.

    The final rampage sometimes doesn't yield enough gang members (possibly because of the 3 stars), which is just annoying after the exhaustive flying. I saved it till now anyway because it gets rid of those stars so landing it on the ground is slightly safer. The last bit of flying encompassed in 'Friendly Rivalry' is usually very easy, but I almost lost it on that first Taxi. It drove up a convenient alley though saving a lot of grief.

     

  • 23 - %
    M - 52/52; Taxi Driver

    Almost there, not much left to do (on paper). 'Cabmaggendon' is fun! CrashCrashcrash. The end went well, getting scraped along the ground is just a bonus.

    It didn't make sense to do 'Taxi Driver' any other time. The Zebra Cab is stronger, faster, sturdier and better looking than the others, so enjoy it. What a way to end the game I got dragged out by Haitians a few times, got my wheels shot or ran over a cop and had to respray a few times too. But I had a decent game plan and tried to avoid driving clear across the city by restarting, but I can't just restart until a passenger wants a location very close by because the time it takes to do that is usually more than the time it takes to drive the extra distance. Went through most of the radio stations too Ah, you probably don't care. Skip to about *wink* *wink*

    Can you blame me for jumping around a bit? I hadn't actually thought about its practical uses, glad it worked out, heh. 'Keep Your Friends Close'; so easy for the last mission, provided you have a minigun anyway. And that's it! Erm Happy Easter!

  • Thanks very much for watching! Hope you enjoyed it, and I hope my comments gave many a valuable insight into the sort of mind that would actually attempt something like this (I think these are my longest ever run comments too). I'm working on San Andreas at the moment (no, not %, it's just not going to happen), so look forward to that whenever I get round to it.

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    Character

    It says the character is different to the Liberty City one thats not true to my knowledge he just dosent speak in Liberty City? - Mike Beckham , 13 February (UTC)

    You are mistaken. They are, in fact, different characters. If you play the game this is evident. The protagonist of GTA III is Claude Speed and the one from Vice City is Tommy Vercetti. --Kamasutra , 27 February (UTC)

    Theme song

    For everybody else who was wondering what the theme song of Vice City was called: it seems to be "I ran (so far away)" by Flock of Seagulls. Amazing that I couldn't find a single notion of the exact title and artist until after intense googling.

    It's also listed in the soundtrack, but that doesn't do you any good if you keep on searching for "I run". -- Ashmodai , 26 March (UTC)

    The theme song is obviously original writing. The Flock of Seagulls song to which you refer is far different, and is actually on the "Wave " soundtrack in the gametwo completely different songs. Eganio , 3 September (UTC)
    "I Ran" was actually used as the theme for the game's trailer, but, indeed, the theme of the actual game itself is an original mocks-synth-pop composition, probably by Craig Conner or Allan Walker I'd presume. DbamTalk/Contributions , 4 September (UTC)

    One of the spanish-titled songs

    On radio espantoso, there's a song called "La vida es un lenteja" which translates literally as "Life is a lentil". This doesnt make any sense, so I'm wondering if, since R* wrote the song, there's some other meaning that I, as a 4th year spanish student, do not getalbrozdude , 11 May (UTC)

    Returned Vehicles

    Here are the vehicles that returned from GTA III and it looks a lot improved:

    • BF Injection (improved)
    • Perennial (improved)
    • Manana (improved
    • Bus (improved)
    • Cheetah (improved)
    • Stallion (improved)
    • Coach (improved)
    • Sentinel (improved)
    • Patriot (improved)
    • Stretch (improved)
    • Cabbie (improved)
    • Taxi (improved)
    • Idaho (improved)
    • Stinger (improved)
    • Mule (improved)
    • Yankee (improved)

    This is the one I have found the vehicles which it has returned. Note that the BF Injection now has headlights because in GTA III, the BF Injection is a hidden car. I'll say that in GTA III, the BF Injection has no headlights (until in GTA Vice City). Anything Else

    Discussion of the game's vehicles is just not relevant in this article. In list of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series, perhaps, but all of the vehicles in this game have been mentioned. ╫ 25◀RingADing▶ , 1 June (UTC) ╫

    Sorry about that. All I was saying is that the fourth game of Vice City, they do have returned vehicles from GTA III, and all I can say that these cars were a lot improved. Anything Else

    I agree with Anything Else, ZS (a.k.a) RingADing. They do have returned vehicles and are quite improving, thanks to Rockstar North and Rockstar games. And with DMA out of the picture, I'd say that Rockstar North is the best developer ever. Note: Possible user impersonation by (talk) , 18 July (UTC)

    I still don't see the relevance of this, nor whether "improved" is a NPOV description in the case of the vehicles (because it's also learnt that some GTA:VC players also dislike certain GTA:VC renditions of the vehicles). Another fact of the matter is that reappearances of vehicles and names are nothing new. GTA1, GTA: London and GTA2 had vehicles that were also tied with each other by name or by physical appearance:
    25◀RingADing▶ , 18 July (UTC) ╫

    Well, I might not know what does NPOV Stand for. Can you, ZS? Best Gamer 29 August

    A link up was provided in my reply, wasn't it?&#;:) Although what I was actually trying to note is the bias towards GTA III-canon vehicles, and that the reappearance of these vehicles in GTA:VC is nothing new in the series. Sorry for the confusion. ╫ 25◀RingADing▶ , 30 August (UTC) ╫

    Hold on, ZS. I now understand what NPOV stand for. It stands for Neutral Point Of View! Best Gamer 9 September

    The NPOV usually stands for Neutral Point Of View. Sure it has returning vehicles, but he said that there is a list of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto series. if Anything Else does not get the answer, well, he should see this article. Professional Gamer , 23 November (UTC)

    Shark Attacks

    Does any of you guys know about the shark attacks in Vice City? It does occur here, but can the shark usually kill the character or attacks the boat? Best Gamer 6 August

    It's another unproven myth. Sharks do swim in the sea, but they are static props and have never been capable of attacking and killing anybody. ╫ 25◀RingADing▶ , 8 August (UTC) ╫
    So the sharks are incapable of attacking the character? Best Gamer 29 August
    That's correct. No Jaws, my friendSoetermans , 4 September (UTC)
    I think the instruction book says that Shark Attacks occur in Vice City, but it was all lies? Best Gamer 5 September
    Lies, lies Consider it to be a funny aspect of the instruction booklet. --Soetermans , 5 September (UTC)
    Well, I think the fans might find out if the sharks were not mean't to attack and kill the character. Can you know that in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas does include Shark Attcks? Best Gamer 5 September
    No, my fellow gamer, there are no animal attacks of any kind in either game. No seagull crapping on your head, no dog biting your behind, no poisonious spiders and no shark attacks. If you don't mind me asking, what is your aim here? Are you making a schoolpaper about animal features in the GTA series? --Soetermans , 6 September (UTC)
    No. I say you're right. There are no animal attacks in GTA games. My aim here is to make things right in this article. Best Gamer 6 September
    Well, I did see the Instruction Manual that says that Shark Attacks occur in Washington Beach. But since there are no Shark Attacks, they're holograms and several fans fell for this joke. But the character can still lose health if it falls into the waters. I think he lacks swimming, like in GTA3. Best Gamer 11 October

    That's right. Tommy can't swim. But I can't imagine "they're holograms and several fans fell for this joke".

    The sharks are just static images at all times? I bet in Vice City Stories will feature a real shark, but will the hidden packages be available? Professional Gamer , 30 November (UTC)
    My dear Best Gamer and Professional Gamer, please accept the fact the sharks in GTA: VC are nothing more than plain images. They will not attack you. Tommy Vercetti can't swim, that's why you will eventually die if you get too far beneath the surface. For your bet on shark attacks featured in VCS, I wouldn't know, but I find it unlikely. Animal attacks haven't been featured in any so far. Your question if hidden packages will be available, which should be known by now, are either found on the article of Vice Ciy Stories, or any good game website. --Soetermans , 11 December (UTC)

    vigilantes

    The page says about 80's references:

    In fact, if the player's "wanted level" reaches three stars, an undercover sports car joins the police in chasing the player; the occupants of the sports car are two undercover police officers who dress in a manner reminiscent of Miami Vice's lead characters.

    But these guys are not cops: they are the "vigilantes" -- private citizens chasing criminals. If you kill them and get in their car, it is called the Vigilante Cheetah, and you can do vigilante missions to hunt down criminals, just as you can do in the police car, SWAT truck, FBI van, FBI Washington, tank, army truck, and Apache helicopter. If you get to a certain level in the vigilante mission, then you the bulletproof vest gives you armor instead of just One of the best aspects of the game -- needs to be on the page! Chymicus , 25 August (UTC)

    I have to disagree with the argument in the last paragraph. Firstly, the name of the vehicle in question is the "Police Cheetah." Secondly, one may notice badges worned by these men's, implying that they are plain clothed or undercover police officers. Thirdly, vigilante missions also apply to vehicles that are otherwise associated with formal law enforcement (as the paragraph has obviously stated); it is the player that activates the side-mission who becomes the vigilante. The point armor is also irrelevant to be mentioned in this article because it's only a minor reward in the game. ╫ 25◀RingADing▶ , 26 August (UTC) ╫
    I agree with Ring, it is no more than a minor part of the game. Besides, the object of a videogame Wiki page is not to describe every little detail about progressing trough the game. --Soetermans , 5 September (UTC)

    7 star wanted level&#;??

    my friend said there is a 7 star wanted level where a UFO chases you is that true&#;??~ moe , 22 September (UTC)

    A seven star wanted level is never, ever a feature in the game, or the entire series for that matter. I would also like to advice posting questions like these in a GTA forum (like GTAforums) instead in the future, the talk page is meant for discussions regarding changes in the article, not the GTA: Vice City itself. ╫ 25◀RingADing▶ , 22 September (UTC) ╫
    The 7 star wanted level is not true. The only hardest level it has is a 6 star wanted level. It deploys like the same technique like in GTA3, except the militaries has twice the strentgh, Rhinos and Barracks OLs will be twice as stronger than in GTA3. Best Gamer 9 October
    Also, I mean, come on. UFOs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)
    No UFO is there in VC (but u can download mod from net which can replace any heli with a UFO) Anishgirdhar , 6 June (UTC)

    Making Money

    I hate to complain about this game but it was hard to make millions (apart from vigilante) in this game. People were claimed to be rich but were stingy with their money. Tommy recieved less than $50, after a mission. In GTA III, Claude recieved over $50,OOO and millions.

    Retrieved from "adityagaur.com:Grand_Theft_Auto:_Vice_City"; as if it reappeared as magic.

    • sigh*. I hate it you complain about this game all together. This is an encyclopedia. Your opinion doesn't matter in this case. The fact that money is something hard to get by in this game (which, in my opinion, is far more real) isn't worthy of putting in either. So please, don't get upset if I deleted your pointless postSoetermans , 9 October (UTC)

    Bodies in Cove Area

    Towards the area that opens into the sea and connects the canals to the ocean, there are bodies in the water that have concrete "shoes" on them. They can be found on the rocks as well as on the bottom. -VonR

    Your point being? This is the talk page of the article of GTA:VC, not a FAQ or a walktrough. --Soetermans , 11 December (UTC)

    His point being: This article hasnt got any trivia or easteregg, which was what I looked for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) , 6 December (UTC)

    Yeah, it has no trivia, and it's never going to get one. Trivias aren't encyclopedic. , 6 December (UTC) TheBlazikenMaster (talk) , 6 December (UTC)

    Robot Chicken

    I know there is a parody of this game with Mario and Luigi in the episode Lust for Puppets, but I don't know what section would fit best, any help? TheBlazikenMaster , 23 September (UTC)

    I don't think it's relevent, to be honest. DbamTalk/Contributions , 23 September (UTC)
    I agree: irrelevant. Eganio , 1 October (UTC)
    Well, in my opinion it is very notable because it's the only spoof of this game I'm aware of. Why the hell not? TheBlazikenMaster , 1 October (UTC)
    That doesn't make it notable in the slightest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) , 5 October (UTC)
    And where do we draw the line? Do we include every popular culture reference to this game that anyone can claim as unique? The fact that you say it's the only spoof of the game you're aware of tells us right there that any section comprised of such references will quickly degenerate into original research and arguments over purported allusions to the GTA series. In short, I think it's a nice note, but irrelevant to this encyclopedic article. Eganio , 8 October (UTC)

    Song Name

    What's the name of song played when tommy gets a private lapdance&#;? It's Goin' Down , 5 October (UTC)

    What does this have to do with the article? Eganio , 22 October (UTC)

    Can somebody please tell me who voiced Mr. Black and Leo Teal as well as Rico and Pepe. Please.

    —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)

    Please go to a dedicated fan site for GTA: VC. There are plenty out there from which I'm sure you can obtain this information. This forum is not intended for discussion of the article's content, rather for discussing the article itself. Thank you. EganioTalk , 26 December (UTC)

    Weapons

    Should there be a mention of the different categories in more detail. They are very briefly glossed over where it says "There are 10 categories" but it then neglects to say what they are. It wouldn't exactly take up much time or space. TheTrojanHought (talk) , 25 February (UTC)

    I'm not sure I agree that any more detail needs to be added. How would enumerating the categories enhance this article? Don't you think that might be a little crufty? Just a thought. Otherwise, I agree that it wouldn't take up much time or space, and certainly wouldn't have any issues with verifiability. EganioTalk , 23 March (UTC)
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